It was a pretty gutless engine for a truck that size and definitely not much of a highway cruiser. Amazingly the truck still exists today but currently has a in it. Bought an F custom, with a heavy service bed and crane brand new with the m 2V in Had the same problem having to downshift to get up hills. One supposed remedy to poor mileage during the gas crunch was high gears so the engine was turning slower at 70 MPH. Unfortunately, I had to use the granny gear to start out, or waste the clutch.
Put a high-flow eldelbrock intake and Carter 4 barrel on it with an RV cam and felt like it doubled the HP. Had it running in 3 days. Hauled that heavy truck around like it was nothing but still had the way-too-high gear problem on long, steep inclines. On the flat however, the high gears let that truck run over mph in 4th gear! Not that I did it very often. Still have the truck today with the 5th or 6th motor in it. Went back to the 2V with better heads and the thing has good power and … gets 14 MPG … remarkable when you consider the 11, Lb.
I really liked your info on the I always been a huge fan of that motor. I just had an opportunity to buy a good rebuilt c 2v. I have a 67 Mustang and put it in it. Is this true? Thanks for you time. I have a 73 mustang the original c matching was stolen from my garage just wondering what you would think this would be valued at? Clevo and M engines had some anomolies. Though buy FM pistons that are way down the hole and you will end up with about 7.
Mine now has 60cc C [Australian] heads and gets 9. Why did Ford ever make them so large? I believe some aftermarket W blocks use Clevo size and they are too big as well.
But a bit better. The is suited too what it was installed as as a engine for 2 tonne tanks. Mine is a 71 LTD. Even the 2V intakes really are too big. A Performer gives them a Chev race port intake runner. The long rods give it so much low end torque it is hard to get off the line without frying [semislick race] tyres. It is in a budget road race car. I got a M in my F how can I tell what year it was made or they all the same in all the years.
W hat years did the make them? I have a f with, what I was told is a W. The distributor is wired to a firing order of Which is not the right firing order for a W. How can this be? Thank for any help. Howdy, Re. Hey Ricky, thanks for the heads up. I have several blocks. I need to know if there is any markings to go by l want to put a in my 78 f Advice and Comments? I checked some forum threads and the consensus seems to be around or so. Your email address will not be published.
Your Website. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed. Summit Racing Equipment. The Three s. The Windsor is a common sight under the hood of older Ford cars and trucks. Radiator Hose.
Windsor engines have the radiator hose and thermostat installed into the intake manifold, where it exits from the front of the engine. Valve Covers. Timing Chain. Motor Mounts. Author: OnAllCylinders Staff. Zach says: November 24, at pm. Randy says: January 9, at am. Mark says: January 28, at am. Brad says: May 12, at pm. Just wondering is the a big block or small people argue with me about all the time. Redneckgearhead says: June 3, at pm.
Wayne says: July 26, at pm. Rob says: October 14, at pm. Martin says: October 18, at am. Clarence White says: August 26, at pm. To eventually grow up into pro-stock or modified and possibly sprint car.
Ben says: January 19, at pm. OnAllCylinders Staff says: January 22, at am. JOHN says: October 24, at pm. Dana Ewashko says: January 19, at pm. Gordon says: January 23, at pm. Lucas says: June 23, at am. Why does Chevy suck solo bad?! Mike says: August 23, at pm. The in that came in a full size Ford also used the C bolt pattern. Daniel Wilson says: January 20, at pm. OnAllCylinders Staff says: March 28, at pm. Chuck says: April 7, at pm.
Daniel Wilson says: April 17, at pm. Randall says: July 12, at pm. The water Thermostat usually tells you if it is a Windsor or a Cleveland location. Jon Hall says: March 11, at pm. Val says: March 14, at pm. Wilhelm says: May 7, at am. Fas Eddie says: January 5, at pm. The Windsor W was introduced in and stayed in use until The Cleveland C was first used in on some early-production models, and was last produced in , when it was replaced with the Modified M model.
The first number on the VIN code on your Cougar designates it a model year, and the last letter, "M," designates it a four-barrel carbureted engine. There are several external differences that can help to distinguish between the W engine and the C and M engines: The W has three bolts attaching the valve covers on the exhaust manifold side; the C,M has four. The W has the timing cover bolted to the block.
The timing cover on the C,M is cast as part of the block. On the W the thermostat housing is attached to the intake manifold, on the C,M it's attached to the front cover. The fuel pump attaching bolts are mounted in the horizontal plane on the W and the in vertical plane on the C,M. The catalogs and books tell part of the story, for the rest, here's practical wisdom from my friends on the Internet:.
If the car has a functional hood scoop it's the Eliminator Model. The Windsor motors couldn't come close. The new Edelbrock RPM intake ought to help the low end. Cam selection is abundant, distributors and rockers from a are interchangeable, and piston selection is good. The W is a good motor, too. In the end, you run a C to be different. Joined: Nov 30, Posts: Profile Page. I'd have to vote for the Windsor, more parts available cheaper.
Also my machinist said that about one out of three Clevelands won't take a. Zorro , Aug 14, Joined: Jul 25, Posts: 4, Profile Page. Windsor's are like SBC's And don't get excited about "cheaper to build" Joined: Sep 18, Posts: 1, Profile Page. Hey Ford Freak, do you remember a racer named Forrest Huff that ran a Cleveland against the "rat" motored Chevrolets down at Spencer Speedway circa ? He did pretty well despite the significant displacement disadvantage. Anyway my thoughts on the Cleveland are these.
The darn things just look so damn cool with those big old fat canted valve cylinder heads. Everybody has an sbc some have Windsors but a select few run the mighty Clevelands. Go for it and be different. BTW if you need a rear sump pan use one from a M- 4x4 application, that'll work just fine.
Henry Floored , Aug 14, Joined: Feb 16, Posts: 34 Profile Page. I will have a rebuilt C 2V in my Tudor , I bought it for my Mach1 but then sold the car away with the that was in it. The one thing I would like to have on this engine is a 3x2 intake, but as I understand it doesnt exist, only one to the 4V and that was only produced in around 6 copies!
Please correct me if I'm wrong! It will still look good with the new Edelbrock carb and the cadillac air-cleaner though, cant wait to start it up Joined: May 4, Posts: 1, Profile Page. Why not a Cleveland-headed Windsor? Boss s were damn cool, and there are CHI Cleveland heads out now designed to bolt right up to a Windsor block. The Windsor shortblocks are easy to get, and easy to stroke out, too. I say go with a stroked W block to or so, and top it with the CHI aftermarket heads.
Kind of a Boss Scotch , Aug 14, Joined: Jun 5, Posts: 8, Profile Page. Flat Ernie , Aug 15, Joined: May 16, Posts: 2, Profile Page. Build a Clevor They made the and Modified motors that used 2 brl cleveland heads until so there are literally tons of 2 brl heads out there.
I have a M on the back on my truck right now that will be going for scrap. I am thinking of taking the head though. Take a windsor block, drill a new water hole in the head, and stick a freeze plug in the old one, and the heads bolt right on. Depending on what chamber size you use, cheap flattop pistons can be used, but should be flycut for the cleveland valves.
RacerRick , Aug 15, Joined: Aug 21, Posts: 3, Profile Page. I didn't actually pick the C, it's just what the guy had, and would trade me for my dead Lincoln flattie. The motor is a 4V from a 70 Cougar XR7. I did absolutely no modifications, except Edelbrock intake and carb, and Pertronix in the distributor- I'm even running the stock exh.
You know what? It runs really strong, tons of torque, and pulls my pound car off the line with some authority. My mileage has been around 15 mpg on the highway because of rear end gearing.
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